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	<title>Comments on: Mad Men Watch: While You Were Out</title>
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		<title>By: jwineguy</title>
		<link>http://tunedin.blogs.time.com/2008/10/27/mad-men-watch-while-you-were-out/comment-page-1/#comment-16821</link>
		<dc:creator>jwineguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 02:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My big question for next year is; what is the relationship between Don and Sterling. It appeared in the Freddy dismisal show that the two of them go way back, posibly to California. Try to figure that maybe Sterling came in to Sterling/Cooper because his father brought him in but what about Don? Count the posible years and it&#039;s hard to figure how Don went from a used car salesman in California to where he is now as creative director.  And he has no contract;good faith on Sterling&#039;s part? or old friends?
Did you catch the comment from Don while sitting at the bar in the Freddy show, after they had put Freddy in the cab. Sterling comments about Don punching Jimmy at the speakeasy. Don says, &quot;That was a real Archibald Whitman move&quot;, his father. Sterling says, &quot;Who&#039;s that?&quot; And Don says something about someone he used to know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My big question for next year is; what is the relationship between Don and Sterling. It appeared in the Freddy dismisal show that the two of them go way back, posibly to California. Try to figure that maybe Sterling came in to Sterling/Cooper because his father brought him in but what about Don? Count the posible years and it's hard to figure how Don went from a used car salesman in California to where he is now as creative director.  And he has no contract;good faith on Sterling's part? or old friends?<br />
Did you catch the comment from Don while sitting at the bar in the Freddy show, after they had put Freddy in the cab. Sterling comments about Don punching Jimmy at the speakeasy. Don says, "That was a real Archibald Whitman move", his father. Sterling says, "Who's that?" And Don says something about someone he used to know.</p>
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		<title>By: jwineguy</title>
		<link>http://tunedin.blogs.time.com/2008/10/27/mad-men-watch-while-you-were-out/comment-page-1/#comment-16820</link>
		<dc:creator>jwineguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 02:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pete, Peggy and Don - Pete a nice guy for telling Don about the merger? No, he heard the three stooges trying to play every angle between themselves in the future office and decided to play it down the middle. He is not being Don&#039;s buddy.
Pete is trying to connect with Peggy? Not really, he sent the wife to her mother&#039;s and now he&#039;s paying attention to Peggy; just a game.  But he was thrown for a loop by Peggy&#039;s comments and you saw the rifle behind them; that rifle that been in his office since he returned the wedding present in season 1 and I have been anxiously awaiting its return. That&#039;s not to say that he will use it, probably more likely that Duck comes in and uses it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete, Peggy and Don - Pete a nice guy for telling Don about the merger? No, he heard the three stooges trying to play every angle between themselves in the future office and decided to play it down the middle. He is not being Don's buddy.<br />
Pete is trying to connect with Peggy? Not really, he sent the wife to her mother's and now he's paying attention to Peggy; just a game.  But he was thrown for a loop by Peggy's comments and you saw the rifle behind them; that rifle that been in his office since he returned the wedding present in season 1 and I have been anxiously awaiting its return. That's not to say that he will use it, probably more likely that Duck comes in and uses it.</p>
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		<title>By: kemper01</title>
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		<dc:creator>kemper01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loved how season 1 ended with Don at a new high in his career only to come home to an empty house, while this season 2 ended with Don&#039;s career in limbo, but finally getting to come home.

Also loved how Duck imploded after Don&#039;s casual, &quot;I don&#039;t have a contract line.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loved how season 1 ended with Don at a new high in his career only to come home to an empty house, while this season 2 ended with Don's career in limbo, but finally getting to come home.</p>
<p>Also loved how Duck imploded after Don's casual, "I don't have a contract line."</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 00:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Madness. &#171; Points &#38; Dangables</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: biggoombah</title>
		<link>http://tunedin.blogs.time.com/2008/10/27/mad-men-watch-while-you-were-out/comment-page-1/#comment-16815</link>
		<dc:creator>biggoombah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Orla&#039;s comment about the pregnant sister may negate mine, but when I watched I didn&#039;t think that Peggy&#039;s comment about &#039;giving up&#039; the baby was revealing any bombshell. I thought she was just offering the technical truth in a way that wouldn&#039;t lead Pete to try to get in her life via the baby. Even if the child was still in her family, she still had given it up, and why would she provide that extra detail about WHERE the child was now? People in this show lie and tell half-truths all the time.

If this were the case, then all the tension she had around the boy was real. But a pregnant sister (good catch, BTW) changes things, and the tension becomes Peggy&#039;s discomfort around any child who makes her think of her own.

But on another point, what was up with the rifle? Implied suicide?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Orla's comment about the pregnant sister may negate mine, but when I watched I didn't think that Peggy's comment about 'giving up' the baby was revealing any bombshell. I thought she was just offering the technical truth in a way that wouldn't lead Pete to try to get in her life via the baby. Even if the child was still in her family, she still had given it up, and why would she provide that extra detail about WHERE the child was now? People in this show lie and tell half-truths all the time.</p>
<p>If this were the case, then all the tension she had around the boy was real. But a pregnant sister (good catch, BTW) changes things, and the tension becomes Peggy's discomfort around any child who makes her think of her own.</p>
<p>But on another point, what was up with the rifle? Implied suicide?</p>
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		<title>By: biggoombah</title>
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		<dc:creator>biggoombah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Orla&#039;s comment about the pregnant sister may negate mine, but when I watched I didn&#039;t think that Peggy&#039;s comment about &#039;giving up&#039; the baby was revealing any bombshell. I thought she was just offering the technical truth in a way that wouldn&#039;t lead Pete to try to get in her life via the baby. Even if the child was still in her family, she still had given it up, and why would she provide that extra detail about WHERE the child was now? People in this show lie and tell half-truths all the time.

If this were the case, then all the tension she had around the boy was real. But a pregnant sister (good catch, BTW) changes things, and the tension becomes Peggy&#039;s discomfort around any child who makes her think of her own.

But on another point, what was up with the rifle? Implied suicide?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Orla's comment about the pregnant sister may negate mine, but when I watched I didn't think that Peggy's comment about 'giving up' the baby was revealing any bombshell. I thought she was just offering the technical truth in a way that wouldn't lead Pete to try to get in her life via the baby. Even if the child was still in her family, she still had given it up, and why would she provide that extra detail about WHERE the child was now? People in this show lie and tell half-truths all the time.</p>
<p>If this were the case, then all the tension she had around the boy was real. But a pregnant sister (good catch, BTW) changes things, and the tension becomes Peggy's discomfort around any child who makes her think of her own.</p>
<p>But on another point, what was up with the rifle? Implied suicide?</p>
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		<title>By: jponiewozik</title>
		<link>http://tunedin.blogs.time.com/2008/10/27/mad-men-watch-while-you-were-out/comment-page-1/#comment-16814</link>
		<dc:creator>jponiewozik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@orla: Thanks! Publishers do sometimes employ proofreaders, but not generally for blogs, so you&#039;re it. (Though I&#039;m sure if our readership were all willing to pay an annual Tuned In subscription fee we could finance one. Anyone?) Am updating the post now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@orla: Thanks! Publishers do sometimes employ proofreaders, but not generally for blogs, so you're it. (Though I'm sure if our readership were all willing to pay an annual Tuned In subscription fee we could finance one. Anyone?) Am updating the post now.</p>
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		<title>By: orla7</title>
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		<dc:creator>orla7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James,

I am also a &quot;Mad&quot; fan and must correct you on a couple of errors in your otherwise fine analysis of last night&#039;s season ender. First, the demented partner who shut down Pete Campbell&#039;s blackmail attempt last year is Bert Cooper, not Don Cooper. This should have been caught by a proofreader -- if anyone still employs such people. More importantly, you mentioned that the episode cleared up the fact that Peggy&#039;s baby is not being raised by her sister, but we already knew this.

One of the many reasons I love the show is for the intricate plot lines
which require us to remember even small details and make logical assumptions about what we have seen -- often what we have seen briefly and only once. In one of the flashback scenes where Peggy was in the hospital after giving birth, we saw her mother and her very pregnant sister at her bedside. The obvious conclusionwas that the married sister had a baby soon after Peggy did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James,</p>
<p>I am also a "Mad" fan and must correct you on a couple of errors in your otherwise fine analysis of last night's season ender. First, the demented partner who shut down Pete Campbell's blackmail attempt last year is Bert Cooper, not Don Cooper. This should have been caught by a proofreader -- if anyone still employs such people. More importantly, you mentioned that the episode cleared up the fact that Peggy's baby is not being raised by her sister, but we already knew this.</p>
<p>One of the many reasons I love the show is for the intricate plot lines<br />
which require us to remember even small details and make logical assumptions about what we have seen -- often what we have seen briefly and only once. In one of the flashback scenes where Peggy was in the hospital after giving birth, we saw her mother and her very pregnant sister at her bedside. The obvious conclusionwas that the married sister had a baby soon after Peggy did.</p>
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		<title>By: katy93</title>
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		<dc:creator>katy93</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know it&#039;s not the biggest thing that happened, but I loved the &quot;There&#039;s canapes!  Really good ones!&quot; line.  A perfect capsule of the language of office culture and America in a crisis--missiles are scary but distant.  The canapes, on the other hand, are Right Here in the Refrigerator.  For me the little notes sounding this leitmotif made the episode--like Don turning off the radio in the final scene.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know it's not the biggest thing that happened, but I loved the "There's canapes!  Really good ones!" line.  A perfect capsule of the language of office culture and America in a crisis--missiles are scary but distant.  The canapes, on the other hand, are Right Here in the Refrigerator.  For me the little notes sounding this leitmotif made the episode--like Don turning off the radio in the final scene.</p>
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