Comments on: Shield Watch: Time to Have That Talk

By: Kemper

Kemper — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:27:40 +0000

I agree with mcmagnus. I've never had a more powerful feeling of dread as the end of a show approaches. Since the first episode of the show, you knew it wasn't going to end well, but you just know that the ultimate ending is going to be horrific.
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I also agree that Chiklis was great in the confession scene, but I think his best moment was when he got the call that the immunity was going to happen. It was one of the rare times where we've seen behind Vic's mask of self-confidence and showed the he seriously doubted that he'd be able to pull off his last great scheme.
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By: Macleans.ca - And Then I Did This…

Macleans.ca - And Then I Did This… — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 21:29:47 +0000

[...] Then I Did This… Tags: The Shield, Vic That was indeed an incredible scene on The Shield where Vic confesses most of his previous crimes in exchange for immunity. It was like a serious, harrowing, gut-wrenching version of a type of [...]

By: guillo28

guillo28 — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:51:25 +0000

To use the word "drama" to describe this series I think is a disservice to this show. What we had last night, with no doubt, is a whole new category of television, which I would call Intense. Because there is no other word to describe what we witnessed last night. From the beginning to the end, without any of the artifices used by any other programs, The Shield has kept us riveted: Shane and Moira's shooting and subsequent despair, Corrina's arrest and desperation for herself and her children welfare, Vic refusing to sign the deal to protect Ronnie, Dutch and Claudette's relationship deteriorating. With all of this alone it could cover in one hour what most shows try to cover in a full season worth. But then.. Vic's confession was a masterpiece of acting and writing. In only twenty minutes, Shawn Ryan has turned a tragic figure into one of the greatest villains in twenty-first century television. Yes, a villain. There's no turning back now. Vic has seen the evil of his acts and his response: " I've done worse ". There's no redemption, there's no hope for his character now. Which brings me to the question: If Vic's the villain, who's the hero? Claudette?, Aceveda? Dutch? Shane? One more week, and if they continue this way.. Sorry Sopranos, you lost the title. Thanks JP for keeping the interest

By: hrnyc

hrnyc — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:33:19 +0000

Vic poured it all out because he has a level of guilt about it. Not true guilt like Moira had, but enough to have it that accessible in is mind that he could confess to it a a moment's notice.

What will Vic do to Corrine? Nothing, but it wont be a pretty scene when he finds out.

Is Shane defanged now that he tainted his Lady MacBeth?
Much like the Shakespeare the enabler is never the doer.

How dangerous is an angry Claudette?

WTF will Ronnie do.

I am Ronnie's biggest fan now and would be perfectly fine with him killing Vic and Shane.

Id rather see that than Ronnie go to jail after killing the Armo for Vic...

Im so torn.
Damn you Shawn Ryan!!!

By: Bemused

Bemused — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:26:22 +0000

It was truly amazing to see Vic finally say the words, "I shot and killed Terry ...." [not exact words, obviously] What seemed particularly far-fetched about the immunity thing to me, though, was the idea that he could really remember everything he's pulled off the top of his head. You'd think he'd be sweating it more out of fear that he'd forget something. I have little doubt that it will an incredible episode next week, though. I also want to give the actress who plays Olivia a shout-out. Her reaction shots were pretty great, too.

By: mcmagnus

mcmagnus — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 17:41:30 +0000

I've never seen a show that can produce such a realistic feeling of dread within me as the shield. The whole immunity thing seems far-fetched to me (who knows, maybe it's legit), but setting up that scene where Vic has confess, grappling with his shame - I was stunned. It's the sort of stuff that's so good it reminds you that you could never really write a television show yourself.

By: Tom Shaw

Tom Shaw — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 15:09:50 +0000

I won't comment about the acting - it's awesome, everyone will be seeing it come Emmy time, etc. etc. Reiterating that seems pointless. I will comment about the logistics though- just a few weeks ago I was complaining that the ICE subplot seemed superfluous, seemingly the only way to keep Aceveda connected to the plot. But now that the actual endgame has revealed itself, the ICE situation has connected to the rest of the plot with a satisfying click. First off, the (albeit late) inclusion of the "black board of directors" brings the show back to its messy multi-ethnic origins. Secondly, that Vic's immunity deal is dependent on both full disclosure and successful apprehension of Beltran, the blacks, and Ronnie leads to any number of potential disasters: While Claudette isn't going to intentionally ruin the meet (and let Beltran get away) to kill Vic's immunity, and Aceveda is unlikely to do so (given his impassioned comments to Vic about needing to get the drugs off the street), Ronnie certainly would, if he finds out he has no exit. Given that Aceveda accidentally intimated that he's best buds with Vic in this episode, once he finds out how tarred he is, he could mention Olivia's blackmail file (which, given Vic probably didn't disclose it, sends both he and Olivia to prison). And of course, anyone could (intentionally or accidentally) just shoot Beltran/Vic/etc. Only problem is the Shane situation is now rather unconnected. Does Ronnie blow off the meet (and thus ruin Vic's immunity deal) to track down Shane? Does Vic pull off the ICE showdown just to mexican standoff with Shane in the coda? Whatever it is, it doesn't seem to tie in nicely with the rest of the plot. In any case, Tuesday can't come fast enough.