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Lostwatch: Everybody Kills Hitler on Their First Trip

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Before you read this post, whip up a batch of waffles—don't burn the bacon!—and watch last night's Lost. 

If you had a time machine, what would you do? I don't really need to ask, do I? "I'd go back and kill Hitler!" Everybody kills Hitler. The only question is: do you do it before or after you go back and bet on every World Series, upset-victory horse race and championship boxing match? They shouldn't even call them time machines. They should call them Kill-Hitler Machines. 

Except, except. What if you had to kill Hitler when he was a baby? What if he was a 12-year-old boy, with an abusive dad, who had done you a kindness when you were vulnerable? What if he was a sickly kid with glasses who, if you squinted at him just right, looked like he was Harry Potter? 

Now, Ben Linus is not Hitler. (Notwithstanding Sayid's hyperbolic statement that he was guilty of "genocide"--though mass murder's bad enough.) He's still a murderous, dangerous man who, from the reasonable standpoint of most of Oceanic 815's veterans, the world would be better off without. The fact remains that wanting someone dead is one thing; actually doing the deed, and doing it when the person is vulnerable, is quite another. Killing an abstraction is one thing; killing an actual child is another. Right thing to do or not, it requires a capability that many of us don't have. It requires killing a part of yourself, if that part is not already dead. 

This is the drama that played out in Sayid's shocker shooting of young Ben. (Notice I said "shooting," not "killing." We're operating on Lost rules here: if they don't sever the head and burn the body, he ain't dead.) Making an audience see this is the difference between treating your characters as plot devices and treating them as people. And that was the achievement of "He's Our You," which—if not as revelation-packed or breathtaking as other Lost episodes—was emotionally a point-blank hit. 

First, there's the Sayid side of the equation. This was a kind of return to old Lost flashback episodes, in which an accumulation of details from a character's past life reveal his flaws and challenges and inform his decisions in the present. In this case, to be honest, they told us a lot of what we already knew about Sayid. (1) That he sees himself as fundamentally damaged (though the interesting question is, did that damage result from his life of violence, or did it lead to it?). And (2) that he really, really hates Ben. 

More interesting to me was what unfolded for Sayid in the "present" time on the Island. We are used to thinking of Lost as a show about redemption. People come to the Island who have great crimes and regrets in the past, and are here to deal with them—even if they often end up repeating the same mistakes. But what Sayid ends up deciding seems to be something different. The usual arc you might expect from this kind of story is that Sayid has been broken down, sees himself--as he says under truth serum--as a "bad man' who must make penance. Typically, you'd expect him to redeem himself through some act of self-sacrifice, breaking his pattern of violence. 

But Sayid's decision, even though he seems to arrive at it by hitting the emotional bottom and recognizing the emptiness of his deeds, is the opposite. He is a bad man, he decides. And the sacrifice he must make is a moral sacrifice: he must continue to be a bad man, and do one more very bad thing, for the greater good. He is not going to redeem himself and save his soul; his purpose on the Island, he decides, is to sacrifice his soul, surrender to his nature as a murderer, and do one more hit job. His soul is going to fall on its sword. 

This part of the story made the final scene powerful and, to me at least, shocking. (I realized, once we flashed back to the scene at the dock, that Sayid would decide to kill young Ben; but I didn't think he'd be able to pull the trigger.) But that was the easy part, since we've known and loved Sayid for five seasons now. 

The tricky part was humanizing Ben, or at least young Ben, and that's where it becomes clear that Lost would not be a great genre drama if it were not also a great character drama. The ending only really works if Lost gets you to a place where you are willing to sympathize with its arch-villain. And even when you depict that villain as a kid getting knocked around by his dad, that's easier said than done. This was the whole project of the Star Wars prequels, after all: taking the character you'd been taught to despise for three movies and making him human. Sterling Beaumon made me more sympathetic for Ben Linus in a few episodes than the Star Wars did in three movies for Anakin. 

The "killing" still leaves plenty of questions. Foremost, of course: is he dead? I've already said I think not, for the usual Twelve Monkeys, you-can't-change-the-past reasons (to which add: apparently Ben knew that Jin was alive and on the Island because he saw him before being shot). My money's got to be on healed-by-the-Island, right? But some people have advanced theories that there are signs the past has been changed (like the state of the Others/Dharma compound Sun and Frank visit). Certainly, if it turns out that Daniel Faraday was wrong, things get interesting. 

But maybe there are other reasons besides quantum physics that we should assume Ben lived to become Big Ben. At this point, of course, Young Ben was already drawn to the Others, but he's not necessarily bad yet. What better way to become bad, however, than to find that you can trust no one, that your dad beats you, that you can bring a stranger sandwiches and help him when no one else will and then, first chance he gets, he plugs you in the heart for no apparent reason?

Maybe it's true, in other words, that you can't change the past because of logical paradoxes. But maybe it's also true, in a moral sense, that one can't go back  and rid the world of an evil, when by traveling back to do the deed, you carry the legacy of that evil with you. Maybe if you accept that it is you destiny to be "a bad man," you can't help but sow bad.

Or put it another way: if you can't even change yourself, how can you possibly expect to change history? 

Now for the hail of bullets: 

* Any Carlos Casteneda fans care to weigh in on the significance of Ben giving Sayid A Separate Reality? (That'll take off on Amazon, I'm sure.) 

* Any thoughts on when exactly Sayid came to the realization he had to kill Young Ben? It seems plain that he wasn't thinking that when he first encountered him, nor when Ben was knocked around by his dad. And even when Sayid said that he knew the reason he returned to the Island after taking Oldham's happy juice, I'm not entirely sure that that was his meaning then, or if he came to the decision when Ben came to free him. Thoughts? 

* Assuming Ben isn't dead, I'm looking forward to his and Sayid's first reunion scene. Is Ben still aggrieved that Sayid shot him or—having come to know what he does now—is it just another piece of useful information that allowed him to use Sayid as a killer? In a perfect world, in which I had no other deadlines, I'd unpack my Lost DVDs and re-watch every pre-Oceanic Six scene involving Ben and Sayid. If anyone wants to do that, report back. 

* "Make a decision, or I'll call Ann Arbor." As a University of Michigan alumnus, I can honestly say this is the first time I've heard Ann Arbor referenced menacingly for anything not involving football or law school. 

* Speaking of which, according to Lost's timeline, I believe Dharma was still active pre-purge—and presumably still headquartered in Ann Arbor—while I was on campus there. I am not at liberty to answer questions about any "experiments" I participated in as an undergraduate. 

* I love it that Sayid and Sawyer had a scene together and Sawyer was the straight man. "How you doing?" "A 12 year old Ben Linus brought me a chicken salad sandwich. How do you think I'm doing?" (Though I did like "Even the new mom wants you dead" later in the episode.) Oh, and nice callback to the chicken in the first scene. No wonder dude's not hungry.

* Excellent casting of Wiliam Sanderson, whom I always enjoy but who, here, managed to be menacing, but menacing in a different way than you'd expect. (Ditto, in a different way, the character of Horace, who manages to be believably geeky, yet with a hint of cult-leader creepiness, as when he presses Lafleur to make the vote unanimous. He's the scariest nonprofit administrator I've ever seen on TV.) 

* "John Locke is dead. I think he was murdered." Oh, Ben, you card!

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  • 1

    Nice post James.. One thing in regards to when Sayid makes his decision, it might be interesting to note that Sayid doesn't eat the sandwiches perhaps because they came specifically from Ben. But, I think he gives away his decision when he tells Sawyer that he knows what his purpose his and smiles.

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    And.. I'll continue the time honored tradition of not saying everything the first time around :)
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    Even if Ben's not actually dead, boy did it feel satisfying (in a weird way) to see someone finally put a bullet in him. Better than a Snickers..
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    I feel the Ann Arbor line is incredibly important. Anyone know of any U.S Military connection to Ann Arbor? I'm beginning to like the "Dharma is U.S Army" theory more and more.
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    I like that his name is "Oldham".. kinda looks like he would smell like his name :)

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    One point that I'm wondering about is if we've seen the whole story with Ben and Sayid in the 'present day'. They didn't part on good terms when Ben tells him that he's a killer, but that doesn't seem like it would be enough to cause all the anger that Sayid had when they met later in L.A. When he told Hurley to always do the opposite of what Ben says to do and when he threatened Ben at the dock, you got the impression that Sayid knew something about Ben's lies and manipulations that he didn't know when he was building houses in the jungle.
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    It doesn't seem like Sayid was particularly angry when Ben left after telling him about Locke's death. Did he find out something else that makes him decide that shooting young Ben is justifiable?

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    In case anyone is wondering, yes, I'm typing this out on notepad before James even makes his post. (It's going to be a busy day at work, so I want to at least get my thoughts down)
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    I liked the episode. It didn't blow me away (well, except the ending), but really the only stuff I didn't like involved Kate. And really, how surprising is that? I'm finding myself enjoing the focus on the DI a lot more than I thought I would.
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    The hot discussion topic today is obviously going to be: just how good are Hurley's waffles? I bet they're delicious.
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    I suppose people are going to talk about Ben, too. Sayid shot him, and he's apparently dead. Oops. The way I see it, there are a number of potential resolutions: 1)Everything is going to get retconned into showing us that the Ben we know is an imposter and not really the Ben Linus we've seen in the past; 2)The future will be changed, and 30 years in the future, Ben Linus will start fading in and out of existence - it's up to Marty McFly to save him!; 3)The Island is going to save Ben, similar to how it saved Locke. Except, of course, I'm assuming that Ben didn't have all his major organs in the path of the bullet previously removed (his heart, maybe). I don't like #1, I really don't like #2, but I'm fine with #3. I'm just dreading the huge build up to... *gasp* he's not really dead!!! I know we don't talk about next week's previews, but I don't consider it a spoiler to say that I'm happy they didn't show any shots of young Ben alive again in the preview :) (I was expecting to, though)
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    Interesting side note: after hearing Sayid talk about how evil Ben is, I'm convinced that he is going to be considered a good guy in the end, dare I say the savior of the Island.
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    It looks like they're setting up the Incident and removing the Losties from Dharma times to be sooner rather than later. Hopefully they don't drag it out too long.
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    Non-Lost side note (not sure if James is going to make a generic response-to-last-night post or not) - I think Better Off Ted is absolutely hilarious. The show just cracks me up over and over. Unfortunately, my wife and friends, who usually share my sense of humor, don't find it funny at all. Am I the only one who likes it?

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    I said after "316" that the show could go back to flashbacks and it would work; I wasn't expecting the format change this quickly though.
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    So what are we looking at, each episode until the 2-part finale is a specific character flashback?
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    1977 crew gets Kate, Miles, Daniel flashbacks? (Hurley only needs a ghost to tell him to make the flight - thinking something supernatural is the big season ending reveal, so his bit is in finale. Jin can get away with him & Charlotte teaching each other languages in Daniel's flashback.)
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    2007 crew gets Ben, Caesar/Ilana? Maybe Sun?
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    And we are totally in 12 Monkeys mode here - by shooting Ben (he lives obviously) to prevent the future, all Sayid has done is A) remove any doubts Dharma has that he would turn, B) reinforce Ben's devotion to The Others by getting shot for them, and C) probably learn all about Dharma's defenses when Horace feels bad for him getting shot and shows him "cool stuff" to try and get him better. Oh yeah, and probably escalate the conflict between Dharma & The Others to the point where it can only end in The Purge.
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    Interesting that the first flashback is very young Sayid. Showing us that his will to kill has been there for beginning - or (the math seems to line up correctly) giving us our first flash-sideways by showing us 1977 Sayid?

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    Wow, another ridiculously strong character episode. James, I agree with you completely - I was expecting Sayid to think about killing Ben... raise the gun at him even... but I did not think he would pull the trigger. I particularly enjoyed this episode, because we really saw for the first time a non-Jack O6er being "lost" off-island. (I know it can be argued that Hurley going crazy & Sun turning "spooky ninja" constitute being lost, but I humbly disagree).
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    I really dug how the place where Oldham kept his teepee looked like the place where Sayid tortured Sawyer way back in Season 1.
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    A few other great little moments:
    -The writers have Hurley down so well, he can be on screen for 2 minutes and just totally rock.
    -Roger Workman is back! And drunker than ever!
    -Did anyone else want to smack Radzinsky in the face? A lot? I'm beginning to think maybe Inman was the one who shot him.

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    Re: Ann Arbor - the DeGroots were/are professors at Michigan when they started the DI, according to DI information we've seen (I think we've seen those details in the show, but I could be wrong). I thought the Hanso Foundation was based in Copenhagen, but maybe with the DI being based out of AA, maybe there's a Hanso presence in Michigan too.

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    Oh yeah, A Separate Reality deals with alternate realities. Doubly amusing when Ben mentions he's read it twice (once in our reality, once in the other). Still think it is a red herring though - as awesome as the 815ers jumping back to an altered 2008 when Widmore uses The Wheel would be, it would entirely invalidate 5 seasons of the show.
    On the other hand, 12 Monkeys-fixed-time-loops mean there is no free will, because things always have and will always turn out the same way. This is why thinking people hate time travel.

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    @Matt - EXCELLENT point about Radzinsky getting shot by Inman. I'm surprised noone in DI has popped him one yet.

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    Wait, we got an episode devoted to the idea that Sayid has been a stone-cold killer his entire life. He makes the decision to embrace his nature and murder a child, yet he only shoots him once? any self-respecting assassin knows you always put one in the head to make sure, yet Sayid didn't do that. To me, that was more surprising than Sayid actually pulling the trigger. That being said, I fully expected the gun to misfire, or for lil Ben to have a deus ex machina save him.

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    @James- I agree with you on the "humanizing Ben" part. They've done a really good job on that not just in this episode, put in pretty much all of the episodes involving young Ben.
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    I disagree with you about Sayid, though. This has never been about redemption for him (as opposed to most of the other characters). This episode followed the classic Sayid pattern: (1) Sayid wants to think of himself as a good person who's been made to make hard decisions, (2) Sayid's presented with a choice, (3) Sayid chooses to do the "bad" thing, thinking it's for a greater good (whether that he his "greater good" or the world's "greater good", depending on the episode), (4) Sayid does the "bad" thing most would have a tough time doing, (5) Sayid feels really sh***y about it afterwards. Isn't this pretty much every Sayid-centric episode?
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    Bottom line, I never expect Sayid to try to redeem himself. I think he WANTS to redeem himself, but I also expect him to end up doing what he thinks is necessary. Which is why neither the decision to kill young Ben, nor the actual act of pulling the trigger, were the least bit surprising to me. Pulling the trigger would be hard for most people, but not Sayid b/c he knows it's what must be done. Again, we've seen this all before with him. If anything, this is just the culmination for Sayid, in that he's finally ACCEPTED that he's always going to have to do what is necessary, that he's always going to choose the "bad" thing and never get to choose redemption, however much he wants to.
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    And the title to next week's episode sort of answers any of the questions of whether the "12 monkeys rule" applies, doesn't it?

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    @antilles - (This may be vague, but I'm trying to keep it spoiler-free) The title doesn't necessarily imply anything. It could be something that someone says, just like last night. And speaking of that, what great irony(? - can't think of the right word) for Sawyer to be the one who introduces the torturer.
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    @Tom, I agree, I think the book title is a red herring.
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    @archstanton - There could still be a deus ex in lil Ben's machina next week, don't worry!

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    One more point. Sawyer's conflict is really interesting. He wants to help the original castaways, but he's also trying to perserve his Dharma life, too. And it makes sense. He knew the Oceanic people for about 3 - 4 months, and wasn't on good terms for most of that. (How far would anyone be willing to go for a guy you only knew for a few months, and who tortured you during that time?) He's been with Dharma for over 3 years. Even with his feelings for Kate, I could see his loyalties really lying with the DI and Juliet when his hand is force.

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    A cool nugget from Lostpedia:

    "In Moscow when Sayid exits outside mirrored writing "Олдхэм Фармасьютикалс" can be seen above the door which is "Oldham Pharmaceuticals" transliterated into Russian "

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    Waah Sayid is one of my favorite characters and now I'm supposed to feel ambivalent about him? I was both surprised but also kinda thrilled when he shot HarryPotterBen. I feel, though, that we didn't get enough information from the flashback (and how great it was to see 'normal' flashbacks again!) to really motivate why Sayid would be SO pissed at Ben now, after all this time, to decide to finally off (younger) him. Yes, Sayid is a killer and has always been a killer blah blah, but since when did Sayid, of all people, start believing in "having a purpose?" Did he drink some Locke-juice?
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    And boy, Sayid needs to showing a little more discernment when it comes to women. He may be a killer, but his enemies (Ben?) obviously count on the fact that he's a lover too. Iliana seemed clueless about the whole Ben/island thing going on around her -- it'll be interesting to see how that plays out back in the present.
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    Flaming VW bus was a wicked cool image! HarryPotterBen doesn't mess around, does he? I would have aimed it right at Radzinsky's cabin...

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    First - minor irritation to get off my chest: I thought that the previews from last week built up some inaccurate stress about Kate and Juliet - they totally took half of Juliet's sentence out of context and made it look like a showdown was coming, when in reality that conversation went a whole other way. Cheap trick, show.
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    OK, on to this episode. Wow. Just Wow. Really good all around. So, if/when Ben Linus doesn't die, is he gonna tell on Jin for helping Sayid? I agree that we're in 12 Monkeys territory here, with all these events just being bricks in the wall of the already-set big picture. Imagine Ben Linus, that whole freaking time he was working with Sayid, knowing that Sayid would then go back in time and shoot little boy Ben.
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    This was a great character episode for Sayid. I hadn't really thought about it before, but he reminds me a lot of Mr. Eko in the way he is willing/able to do terrible things to protect those around him from having to do them. That childhood scene with little Sayid and his brother seemed to strongly parallel the childhood scene with Eko and Yemi where Eko killed someone so Yemi wouldn't have to.
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    I'm about over this Radzinsky joker, I'm with Matt that somebody needs to deliver a super-sized smackdown to him. If I was stuck with him in an isolated station, I'd probably be able to resist the urge to shoot him for about three days.
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    I loved Sayid on the acid trip. I laughed till my face hurt when Oldham furrowed his brow and said maybe he should have used half a dropper. I thought that should go in the pantheon of funniest Lost lines ever.
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    EB Farnum! EB! Awesome.

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    @Matt- I was trying to keep it spoiler-free too. You're right in that it's not definitive (which is why I posed it as a question), but my guess is that it does. Guess we'll find out next week!
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    @Kemper- great point about Sawyer. He spent the whole episode trying to make it work out for everyone, but in classic Sawyer fashion (and Han Solo fashion), he basically says, "You know what, man, I tried. Your actions make no sense, but I don't give a damn. You're on your own." (But on the inside, Sayid's actions are frustrating the hell out of Sawyer.)

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    Oh yeah I always wanted to say that James pointed out an interesting fact, which is that HarryPotterBen obviously knew a very much alive Jin at the Dharma Initiative. If so, then why was he so surprised to find out later from Locke that Jin survived the freighter explosion? That moment (Ben's surprise) still bothers the heck out of me.

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    On a side note... Was anyone else thinking, "Yeah, Jin!", when he questioned Sayid's intentions (checking in with Sawyer to verify his story), but then, "You idiot!", when Jin turned his head? I love Jin, but he's always doing stuff like that...

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    @kemper and antilles13: excellent points about Sawyer. I'd expand on his conflict, adding that Sawyer isn't just protecting a cushy life with Dharma, but he's also protecting the only simple identity that any of them could reasonably expect to have - they have carved out new identities for 3 years now, and they all have a lot invested in protecting those identities for many reasons - they have no papers, no birth certificates, no other job histories, and their names are already attached to little kid versions of themselves from 1977. Maybe those things could be faked or forged, but there really isn't a place for any of them off the island right now. And, if they're caught now as lying infiltraters, I can't imagine the Dharma sewing circle lynch mob, led by Radzinsky, would show much mercy.

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    @shara: I think you have it backwards. I don't think its that "Ben Linus, that whole freaking time he was working with Sayid, knowing that Sayid would then go back in time and shoot little boy Ben" that we should be thinking about. It's the converse to that -- adult Ben Linus using the VERY MAN WHO SHOT HIM as a child to dispatch his Widmore affiliated "enemies." Talk about a crazy circumstance.
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    I have a WHOLE lot more to discuss in this episode, but duty at work calls....

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    @profdante - that's a good point about Ben's moment of surprise - I hadn't thought about that. Random thought, could Ben have thought he had done something to change the past, only to find out that Jin survived anyway (course correction or something)?

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    On an aside, this episode had more hysterical lines that almost any other in recent history:
    - "A 12-year old Ben Linus just gave me a chicken salad sandwich. How do you think I'm doing?"
    - "No flaming buses for three years and you guys are here ONE DAY..."
    - "Maybe I should have used half a dropper."
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    I'm sure there are more.

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    Re: Ben's surprise - It's possible Ben was just confused about the timing of things. Maybe the last he saw of Jin, as a child, was something that made him think all the Losties died (like some huge electromagnetic incident or something). He just never got the chance to communicate with John that Locke meant Jin was alive (as opposed to dead from the freighter), while Ben thought he meant Jin was alive (as opposed to dead from the Incident). It may be retconning sloppy writing/acting, but it could also be intentional.

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